spoiler: if youve been surprised by the lack of professionalism by the members of the empyre group and have tuned the whole thing out, read no further. i submit an excerpt from a response to yesterdays posts by the remaining two guest list participants (toms post was the above refd resignation letter) :
>Perhaps it is an American trait to respond with swift and overwhelming force when
>dealing with any perceived threat, but it would benefit us all if we attempt to understand
>those who "threatened" us, encourage them to further explain their opinions and
>engage them in active, healthy and civil discussion. Shock & Awe clearly doesn't work.
>One of the beautiful things about this discussion group is the rigorous critical discourse
>generated by the diversity of its participants. If the guests choose to respond by
>dropping out or engaging in pissing contests or calling participants "cunts"...well, there's
>always next month. It would be terrible if people felt unable to express sincere opinions
>here, for fear of offending or whatever. Artists censor themselves too often
>anyway, and that's the most dangerous censorship of all.
i dont know the exact number of members of this list. i may have heard the number 500? but based on the lack of moderator and fellow list participant counter argument to statements of this sort we can only assume that they all concur. its far from a shock and awe response to walk away from what has steadily revealed to be a group driven by an extant undercurrent of chicken shit american artist baiting. withdrawal seams the only dignification this group deserves.
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>Perhaps it is an American trait to respond with swift and overwhelming force when
>dealing with any perceived threat, but it would benefit us all if we attempt to understand
>those who "threatened" us, encourage them to further explain their opinions and
>engage them in active, healthy and civil discussion. Shock & Awe clearly doesn't work.
>One of the beautiful things about this discussion group is the rigorous critical discourse
>generated by the diversity of its participants. If the guests choose to respond by
>dropping out or engaging in pissing contests or calling participants "cunts"...well, there's
>always next month. It would be terrible if people felt unable to express sincere opinions
>here, for fear of offending or whatever. Artists censor themselves too often
>anyway, and that's the most dangerous censorship of all.
i dont know the exact number of members of this list. i may have heard the number 500? but based on the lack of moderator and fellow list participant counter argument to statements of this sort we can only assume that they all concur. its far from a shock and awe response to walk away from what has steadily revealed to be a group driven by an extant undercurrent of chicken shit american artist baiting. withdrawal seams the only dignification this group deserves.
- bill 6-16-2005 3:55 pm