in some ways i think he's right if you can equate timbre with "sound". going to detroit to get the BEIGE records mastered i remember ron murphy telling us stories of berry gordy making the engineers build a radio transmitter and everyone heading out into the car to check how the motown test masters sounded...and remix, re-eq, recut, and test, etc...for the whole day because he knew if it didn't sound "right" on the radio it wouldn't sell.
to find artists who really composed with timbre i think you can again look at detroit - the UR techno stuff, jeff mills especially, robert hood - every song is essentially the same often except for washes of different and changing timbre.
i think pop music now is more reliant on both sorts of timbre than ever before...if it doesn't have the right "sound" then forget it, and that sound, with hiphop especially, is completely electronic/synth driven. neptunes and timbaland [or the programmers who make their keyboards' factory patches] are completely ripping off...i mean influenced by... 80s/90s techno and 90s jungle/drum n bass who themselves were at times composing entirely with timbre.

check the lead synth sound here [arrives about 30 sec in]:
dj aligator
youtube.com/watch?v=bomFumzArIY
and then here:
lil jon
youtube.com/watch?v=79v-Au_3-nw

to my ears the beatles are the worst band of all time, btw :)

- p.d. 1-02-2007 7:43 am





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