(please ignore me if this is all too naive) - do you feel James Turrell manipulates the viewer? I think I am trying to understand if it is the manipulation or the material that is being objected to.. I understand that the work is imposing (which I don't think is always a bad thing, sometimes I am thankful to be imposed upon), but I also have never felt his work interferes in my living. I choose to step into the spiral. Does size equal import? Is his work cliched maybe? In that one expects how they will feel - if they know his work?
addendum:
I do get y'all and do understand. I get the masculine, "big dick art", imposing, manipulative, violent. I guess I just don't mind it as an experience. That's all.
fair question. I dont have any trouble w/ serra right up till the end, where he seems to back off from a career trajectory w/ a reflexive reversal that to me seems to pander to unvalid critisim. if it wasnt for the big crater project i dont think turrell would even be on the map. nice big and sublime nature/art experience. but wiring mood rooms for light and sound shows gives me serious doubt that he has anything on the ball at all. just me 2 cents/ like you say one dont mind being waltzed around if you think they know what their doing.
I bring up Turrell because Sally's post made me think more about how I react to Turrell than Serra. while I really like some of his work like crater, I find the "mood rooms" manipulative and actually somewhat insulting (PS1 room excluded, but there is nothing "artificially" manipulating me there).
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- selma 4-19-2004 9:54 pm
addendum:
I do get y'all and do understand. I get the masculine, "big dick art", imposing, manipulative, violent. I guess I just don't mind it as an experience. That's all.
- selma 4-19-2004 10:29 pm [add a comment]
fair question. I dont have any trouble w/ serra right up till the end, where he seems to back off from a career trajectory w/ a reflexive reversal that to me seems to pander to unvalid critisim. if it wasnt for the big crater project i dont think turrell would even be on the map. nice big and sublime nature/art experience. but wiring mood rooms for light and sound shows gives me serious doubt that he has anything on the ball at all. just me 2 cents/ like you say one dont mind being waltzed around if you think they know what their doing.
- bill 4-19-2004 11:20 pm [add a comment]
I bring up Turrell because Sally's post made me think more about how I react to Turrell than Serra. while I really like some of his work like crater, I find the "mood rooms" manipulative and actually somewhat insulting (PS1 room excluded, but there is nothing "artificially" manipulating me there).
- selma 4-19-2004 11:49 pm [add a comment]