just flipped on meet the press to see markos (daily kos) moulitsas on.
Was he as tough with pumpkinhead as he was with mistah kurtz?
i didnt see him with kurtz, and it was david gregory sitting in. he was paired with dlc ford from tennessee and the debate regarded the split within the dems between dlc-types and netroots libs. kos came across as more authentic while ford was smoother and a slave to his talking points. the talkshow format doesnt allow for much actual thought, just banter before moving on to the next point. still, it will be interesting to see how the netroots deals with a hillary victory. guess it wont be too hard to get behind her considering the alternative.
It was over the Ben Domenech hiring. Kos smoked Kurtz. It was wonderful.
KURTZ: Washingtonpost.com this week hired a conservative blogger, as you know, Ben Domenech. He quit three days later after your site and other liberal sites not only criticized his hiring, but found numerous instances of plagiarism going back to when he was on a college paper. But you criticized his hiring even before some of that came out.
Why?
MOULITSAS: Well, there was two things that we saw. And we're putting this all on Jim Brady, who is the -- who runs...
KURTZ: The executive editor of the washingtonpost.com.
MOULITSAS: Right.
One, they claim that the hire was to balance out a liberal blogger already writing on washingtonpost.com. This liberal blogger does not exist. There is a journalist who has been very critical of the administration who is somehow being accused of being a liberal blogger. He's just very critical of this administration.
KURTZ: Actually, wait. Brady just said he wanted a diversity of opinion on this subject.
MOULITSAS: And...
KURTZ: What's wrong with that?
MOULITSAS: ... that's fine. Then have a liberal blogger, have a conservative blogger, activist partisan liberal and activist partisan conservative blogger. That would have been fine.
But what we saw was that not only did Jim Brady not understand the nature of partisanship online, but he doesn't know how to use Google. He runs washingtonpost.com, couldn't simply Google Domenech's previous writings and realize that the guy was a serial plagiarist.
The guy has no clue how the Internet works and he runs "The Washington Post" online operations. It's startling.
KURTZ: Well, I think no clue is a little harsh. And also, to go back to somebody's college newspaper writings to find out they did plagiarize is not usually part of a typical background check when somebody is hired. Let me move...
MOULITSAS: Well, it wasn't just -- well...
KURTZ: Go ahead.
MOULITSAS: ... it wasn't just a college paper. It was actually "The National Review." He plagiarized work that he did in "The National Review."
KURTZ: Right. He has denied plagiarizing, but there are certainly a lot of instances that you and others have dug up.
Got about half a minute. The Internet obviously gave a big boost to Howard Dean last time around. How important will bloggers be, liberal and conservative, in 2008?
MOULITSAS: Oh, I think they're going to be huge. We talk about the consultant primary and the money primary. I think we're going to be talking about the blogosphere primary for both parties.
These are the people that are the core activists of the party. These are the people who are putting in yearly (ph) money, they're putting on -- they're going out on the streets and they're working for the parties. Having these activists behind the candidates is going to be extremely important to them as they try to wrap up their nominations.
KURTZ: So it's not just you personally but the people who read Daily Kos?
(CROSSTALK)
MOULITSAS: Oh, absolutely. It's not even me. No, one of the nice things that I think about what I do is that it's not be being the leader, it's I provide a structure and a platform for people to be leaders.
KURTZ: All right. Markos, thanks very much for joining us.
As for today's topic, sounds like the media stoking the fights on the left as usual. Thanks for the report.
yes, it seemed like they were trying to accentuate the split but both ford and kos tried not to take the bait.
from daily kos:
"I thought I'd be home for a while, but alas, I'm back on a plane in a few minutes for an East Coast media swing.
I'll be on Meet the Press tomorrow morning for a "debate" with Harold Ford of the DLC. I'll be on Charlie Rose on Monday night. And I'll be back on the Colbert Report on Wednesday evening, where I'll be getting my ass handed to me by the master himself.
And today, as OneCrankyDom already noted, Susan G and I have an op-ed in the Washington Post."
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- dave 8-12-2007 6:39 pm
Was he as tough with pumpkinhead as he was with mistah kurtz?
- tom moody 8-12-2007 8:02 pm
i didnt see him with kurtz, and it was david gregory sitting in. he was paired with dlc ford from tennessee and the debate regarded the split within the dems between dlc-types and netroots libs. kos came across as more authentic while ford was smoother and a slave to his talking points. the talkshow format doesnt allow for much actual thought, just banter before moving on to the next point. still, it will be interesting to see how the netroots deals with a hillary victory. guess it wont be too hard to get behind her considering the alternative.
- dave 8-12-2007 8:52 pm
It was over the Ben Domenech hiring. Kos smoked Kurtz. It was wonderful.
KURTZ: Washingtonpost.com this week hired a conservative blogger, as you know, Ben Domenech. He quit three days later after your site and other liberal sites not only criticized his hiring, but found numerous instances of plagiarism going back to when he was on a college paper. But you criticized his hiring even before some of that came out.
Why?
MOULITSAS: Well, there was two things that we saw. And we're putting this all on Jim Brady, who is the -- who runs...
KURTZ: The executive editor of the washingtonpost.com.
MOULITSAS: Right.
One, they claim that the hire was to balance out a liberal blogger already writing on washingtonpost.com. This liberal blogger does not exist. There is a journalist who has been very critical of the administration who is somehow being accused of being a liberal blogger. He's just very critical of this administration.
KURTZ: Actually, wait. Brady just said he wanted a diversity of opinion on this subject.
MOULITSAS: And...
KURTZ: What's wrong with that?
MOULITSAS: ... that's fine. Then have a liberal blogger, have a conservative blogger, activist partisan liberal and activist partisan conservative blogger. That would have been fine.
But what we saw was that not only did Jim Brady not understand the nature of partisanship online, but he doesn't know how to use Google. He runs washingtonpost.com, couldn't simply Google Domenech's previous writings and realize that the guy was a serial plagiarist.
The guy has no clue how the Internet works and he runs "The Washington Post" online operations. It's startling.
KURTZ: Well, I think no clue is a little harsh. And also, to go back to somebody's college newspaper writings to find out they did plagiarize is not usually part of a typical background check when somebody is hired. Let me move...
MOULITSAS: Well, it wasn't just -- well...
KURTZ: Go ahead.
MOULITSAS: ... it wasn't just a college paper. It was actually "The National Review." He plagiarized work that he did in "The National Review."
KURTZ: Right. He has denied plagiarizing, but there are certainly a lot of instances that you and others have dug up.
Got about half a minute. The Internet obviously gave a big boost to Howard Dean last time around. How important will bloggers be, liberal and conservative, in 2008?
MOULITSAS: Oh, I think they're going to be huge. We talk about the consultant primary and the money primary. I think we're going to be talking about the blogosphere primary for both parties.
These are the people that are the core activists of the party. These are the people who are putting in yearly (ph) money, they're putting on -- they're going out on the streets and they're working for the parties. Having these activists behind the candidates is going to be extremely important to them as they try to wrap up their nominations.
KURTZ: So it's not just you personally but the people who read Daily Kos?
(CROSSTALK)
MOULITSAS: Oh, absolutely. It's not even me. No, one of the nice things that I think about what I do is that it's not be being the leader, it's I provide a structure and a platform for people to be leaders.
KURTZ: All right. Markos, thanks very much for joining us.
- tom moody 8-12-2007 9:19 pm
As for today's topic, sounds like the media stoking the fights on the left as usual. Thanks for the report.
- tom moody 8-12-2007 9:23 pm
yes, it seemed like they were trying to accentuate the split but both ford and kos tried not to take the bait.
from daily kos:
"I thought I'd be home for a while, but alas, I'm back on a plane in a few minutes for an East Coast media swing.
I'll be on Meet the Press tomorrow morning for a "debate" with Harold Ford of the DLC. I'll be on Charlie Rose on Monday night. And I'll be back on the Colbert Report on Wednesday evening, where I'll be getting my ass handed to me by the master himself.
And today, as OneCrankyDom already noted, Susan G and I have an op-ed in the Washington Post."
- dave 8-12-2007 9:34 pm