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https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2018/11/26/story-behind-filmmaker-bernardo-bertoluccis-last-public-controversy/
what if anything relevant does it say? i dont have wapo.
someone asked why it is referenced in a "contest" about 80s eroticism. no reply was forthcoming.
It starts out with this:
More than a decade ago, Maria Schneider revealed the unsettling details surrounding an infamous rape scene in the 1972 drama “Last Tango in Paris,” in which Marlon Brando’s character uses butter as a lubricant before forcing himself on her.
A clip of director Bernardo Bertolucci talking about the scene resurfaced years later, in 2016, setting off wide media attention and sparking outrage in Hollywood.
It would be Bertolucci’s last public controversy over a film that had caused controversy for years. The director died Monday at age 77 at his house in Rome, his press office confirmed to the Associated Press.
Last Tango In Paris 1972.
Rob Lowe pops up surprisingly in the Warhol diaries as kind of a pet twink character. Can we agree it's a bit of un-erotic group of posers? With the exception of Brando who went too far with it in the 70's.
Not sure what you mean by posers. I would say that Nicholson and Bridges were great actors and most of the others were very good too.
actors are posers by definition.
I think Steve coming from the field has a greater appreciation for the craft as a whole than I do. I let some of them get under my skin. And the erotic premise is problematic from an acting standpoint. IE acting erotic ?
IE acting erotic? what does that mean?
this is just a silly online poll about some steamier performances in mainstream 80s cinema. you dont need a credit on imdb to have an appreciation just as you can poo poo them as not particularly erotic. your opinion is valid albeit somewhat sweeping. costner and cruise, not erotic. good looking, sure. but eroticism is part and parcel of the role & performance not the actors alone which is why the last tango in paris inclusion from a "film historian" is so odd.
I.e. and e.g. are both Latin abbreviations. E.g. stands for exempli gratia and means “for example.” I.e. is the abbreviation for id est and means “in other words.” Remember that E is for example (e.g.) and that I and E are the first letters of in essence, an alternative English translation of i.e.
Sorry didn’t mean to make too much of an online poll. Mostly disturbed that they made a game of Brando after a pretty serious infraction. One that didn’t surface fully until after the actresses death. I think it left a career ending or stunting emotional scar. But Brando, I’m thinking street car, is a major erotic (actor) force compared to the rest.
Obviously we don't have much else to do. Think nothing of it.
Also, I can barely read the tiny type.
Earlier today I heard a clip of Mickey Rourke calling Tom Cruise irrelevant. Pretty ironic.
also just realizing that the bracket isnt set right. #2 two should be on the bottom. this has #1 & #2 meeting in the quarterfinals. if anything this is a real indictment of title 9.
also, acting is a lie. fine, its a mutually agreed upon deception. happy?
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- dave 7-14-2022 3:07 pm
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- dave 7-14-2022 3:08 pm [add a comment]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2018/11/26/story-behind-filmmaker-bernardo-bertoluccis-last-public-controversy/
- bill 7-14-2022 5:16 pm [add a comment]
what if anything relevant does it say? i dont have wapo.
someone asked why it is referenced in a "contest" about 80s eroticism. no reply was forthcoming.
- dave 7-14-2022 6:19 pm [add a comment]
It starts out with this: More than a decade ago, Maria Schneider revealed the unsettling details surrounding an infamous rape scene in the 1972 drama “Last Tango in Paris,” in which Marlon Brando’s character uses butter as a lubricant before forcing himself on her. A clip of director Bernardo Bertolucci talking about the scene resurfaced years later, in 2016, setting off wide media attention and sparking outrage in Hollywood. It would be Bertolucci’s last public controversy over a film that had caused controversy for years. The director died Monday at age 77 at his house in Rome, his press office confirmed to the Associated Press.
- bill 7-14-2022 7:06 pm [add a comment]
Last Tango In Paris 1972.
- steve 7-14-2022 6:20 pm [add a comment]
I saw it in the theater 1973 summer. So it’s some what misidentified in the 80’s contest, no?
- bill 7-14-2022 7:09 pm [add a comment]
Rob Lowe pops up surprisingly in the Warhol diaries as kind of a pet twink character. Can we agree it's a bit of un-erotic group of posers? With the exception of Brando who went too far with it in the 70's.
- bill 7-14-2022 7:12 pm [add a comment]
Not sure what you mean by posers. I would say that Nicholson and Bridges were great actors and most of the others were very good too.
- steve 7-14-2022 7:38 pm [add a comment]
actors are posers by definition.
- dave 7-14-2022 8:03 pm [add a comment]
Yeah, but all of these actors were practitioners of the method and therefore attempted to transcend posing by plumbing the depths of their psyche and putting something of themselves into their roles.
- steve 7-14-2022 9:26 pm [add a comment]
Which I guess does kind of make them bigger poesrs than the likes of Carey Grant.
- steve 7-14-2022 9:43 pm [add a comment]
All were method? I think I first saw Bridges boys in seahunt reruns. Always loved CG.
- bill 7-14-2022 9:51 pm [add a comment]
method acting may be an attempt to make your performance feel more authentic by drawing on personal experience (im sure that is an oversimplification) but you are still pretending to be something you are not. it might reveal truths but all acting is a lie. so, yeah, maybe they are bigger posers than cary grant if he is just closer to playing a version of himself but that self also seems like a well constructed pose and not particularly authentic.
- dave 7-14-2022 10:12 pm [add a comment]
Cary Grant's persona was carefully crafted and far from himself.
My opinion is that if there is a lie it's the script and the actors bring their truth to it.
But I don't believe fiction is ultimately a lie either.
- steve 7-14-2022 11:27 pm [add a comment]
I think Steve coming from the field has a greater appreciation for the craft as a whole than I do. I let some of them get under my skin. And the erotic premise is problematic from an acting standpoint. IE acting erotic ?
- bill 7-14-2022 8:22 pm [add a comment]
I think most working actors are anywhere from pretty good to great, I tend to get more irritated by the roles and the movies than actors.
- steve 7-14-2022 9:35 pm [add a comment]
IE acting erotic? what does that mean?
this is just a silly online poll about some steamier performances in mainstream 80s cinema. you dont need a credit on imdb to have an appreciation just as you can poo poo them as not particularly erotic. your opinion is valid albeit somewhat sweeping. costner and cruise, not erotic. good looking, sure. but eroticism is part and parcel of the role & performance not the actors alone which is why the last tango in paris inclusion from a "film historian" is so odd.
- dave 7-14-2022 8:42 pm [add a comment]
I.e. and e.g. are both Latin abbreviations. E.g. stands for exempli gratia and means “for example.” I.e. is the abbreviation for id est and means “in other words.” Remember that E is for example (e.g.) and that I and E are the first letters of in essence, an alternative English translation of i.e.
- bill 7-14-2022 9:19 pm [add a comment]
Sorry didn’t mean to make too much of an online poll. Mostly disturbed that they made a game of Brando after a pretty serious infraction. One that didn’t surface fully until after the actresses death. I think it left a career ending or stunting emotional scar. But Brando, I’m thinking street car, is a major erotic (actor) force compared to the rest.
- bill 7-14-2022 9:31 pm [add a comment]
Obviously we don't have much else to do. Think nothing of it.
- steve 7-14-2022 9:37 pm [add a comment]
Also, I can barely read the tiny type.
- steve 7-14-2022 9:29 pm [add a comment]
Earlier today I heard a clip of Mickey Rourke calling Tom Cruise irrelevant. Pretty ironic.
- steve 7-14-2022 9:30 pm [add a comment]
also just realizing that the bracket isnt set right. #2 two should be on the bottom. this has #1 & #2 meeting in the quarterfinals. if anything this is a real indictment of title 9.
also, acting is a lie. fine, its a mutually agreed upon deception. happy?
- dave 7-15-2022 9:05 pm [add a comment]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theatre_of_ancient_Greece
- bill 7-16-2022 8:14 am [add a comment]
and?
- dave 7-16-2022 9:04 am [add a comment]
Just tracking the roots of the big lie.
- bill 7-16-2022 9:37 am [add a comment]
me too
- dave 7-16-2022 10:06 am [add a comment]