drat fink

and by 'we' i mean 'someone else'

"House Majority Whip Tom DeLay is unfazed by negative remarks Sen. John Kerry, Massachusetts Democrat, made about him and Senate Republican leader Trent Lott, after they criticized Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle for his complaints and questions about the war on terrorism.

Mr. Kerry, a prospective presidential candidate, said of the two Republican leaders: "One of the lessions I learned in Vietnam, a war they did not have to endure, those who try to stifle the vibrancy of our democracy and shield policies from scrutiny behind a false cloak of patriotism miss the real value of what our troops defend and how we best defend our troops. We will ask questions, and we will defend our democracy."

In an interview on CNN's "Saturday Edition with Jonathan Karl," Mr. DeLay, Texas Republican, said: "The last I remember, Sen. John Kerry was against the war in Vietnam, even though he served in it, and went around the country undermining the military overseas in trying to fight this war and giving aid to those that were trying to run the war from Washington, D.C."

Mr. DeLay added: "If we had had the leadership of a George W. Bush back in the Vietnam War days, we probably would not have lost that war. We would have gone in and won it. We would have given our soldiers the kinds of weapons that they needed. We would not have the rules of engagement that the liberals put on them. We would have allowed them to win the war."