im ok w/ the american shameless / and episodes too for that matter


- bill 1-19-2011 8:16 pm

We watched one episode of shameless and liked it.

Dave suggested we try Fringe from the beginning (another J.J. Abrams). Not sure if because he liked it, or thought I would. I was a little slow to warm up but now love it. Almost caught up (they are half way through season 3 now) and looking forward to more.
- jim 1-20-2011 6:45 am [add a comment]


LM tipped us to uk shameless. need to catch up on a few i missed. episodes mediates the phe-nom of adaptation and bbq's hollywood in the process.
- bill 1-20-2011 12:43 pm [add a comment]


ive downloaded the first eps of us shameless and episodes but have been reluctant to watch either. shameless seems to have gotten generally decent reviews but ill have a hard time not comparing it to the original. i eventually got past that with the office but only after it had stopped aping the uk version. i read one change they made to appeal to american sensibilities was to take the drunken lout of a father off the dole. instead he survives on some workmens comp checks because in american if you are on welfare its a sin and depressing.

as for episodes, whats-his-fuck from friends has been praised in the reviews but the show itself has been criticized for being not particularly incisive or funny. essentially if you are going to criticize hollywood for being vapid and unoriginal then you really ought not to be as such yourself. but i havent seen it so i couldnt say i agree at this point.

fringe is a really good show especially once it gets beyond its first seasons monster of the week format and delves more deeply into the shows mythology. it just got moved to friday which has often been the death knell for shows but the suits at fox have said that if they can maintain about 80% of their small but devoted audience that it could stick around for awhile.

cant think of any new shows ive watched that ive added to the must see pile. pbs has an 'upstairs-downstairs' drama, downton abbey. beautifully shot and reasonably engaging though i watched the uk version. for some reason the american edition recut the seven hour long episodes to shoehorn them into four 90minute ones. ive read conflicting reports as to how much content was actually removed.

parks and recreations reboots tonight for its third season. and big love began its final season on sunday but after the previous season ive kind of lost my patience it.
- dave 1-20-2011 4:13 pm [add a comment]


I'm still down with Big Love, but I agree it's not as good. Thanks again for the Fringe, I havne't heard of it anywhere else. I love that Gaudi's Grand Hotel is on the WTC site in the alternate universe. The show is full of cool stuff like that.
- jim 1-20-2011 4:21 pm [add a comment]


I can't remember if you lot turned me on to Peep Show, but I just finished watching season 7 and it was hilarious.
- L.M. 1-20-2011 6:38 pm [add a comment]


"By some miracle of magic or science, Fox’s Fringe moved to Friday night and did not go down in the ratings. The episode — titled “The Firefly” (nicely ironic considering the show’s move to Fox’s infamous Death Slot) — actually improved upon its most recent Thursday performance. Fringe, which featured Christopher Lloyd as a guest star, delivered 4.9 million viewers and a 1.9 preliminary adults 18-49 rating last night. That’s right in line with its Thursday season average. Remember, Fox’s Kevin Reilly said if the show maintains its Thursday numbers on Friday, he’d renew it, so let’s hope the drama can keep this up."
- dave 1-22-2011 6:53 pm [add a comment]


Fingers crossed for Fringe. We're 2 episodes behind now, having watched a ton lately. About to watch those 2 now. Man it's good.
- jim 1-22-2011 9:55 pm [add a comment]


some quality fringe viral geekery

violet sedan chair
- dave 1-23-2011 4:05 pm [add a comment]


thats geeky alright.
- bill 1-23-2011 4:34 pm [add a comment]


gets even more geeky in that the actor who plays the old psychedelic rocker is christopher lloyd. in this episode his son time-travels from 1985 to the present to give him a message that sets a train of events in motion. lloyd starred in back to the future which was set in 1985.

im not geeky enough (thankfully?) to recognize these things in realtime but do read comment threads in reviews where others are. there was also a major shout out to twin peaks which i never watched.
- dave 1-23-2011 4:49 pm [add a comment]


Oh dear. I just got through the first half hour of the first episode of Fringe. How many more episodes do I have to watch before I stop thinking it's dreadful.

Is sci-fi to you guys like costume drama to me. (I'll watch anything with period costumes and servants, anything.)
- L.M. 1-24-2011 3:11 am [add a comment]


my taste is impeccable but ill forgive you. you can watch downton abbey and take home the parting gifts. thanks for playing.
- dave 1-24-2011 3:20 am [add a comment]


to answer your questions though im pretty choosey about sci fi. i guess like the x-files and lost im drawn to ones with a mystery or conspiracy at its core and while sci fiish still is grounded in reality. there is some strong storytelling but it doesnt get really interesting til the middle of the second season though it might not ever appeal to you.
- dave 1-24-2011 3:37 am [add a comment]


i like the bodice rippers. and am ok w/ downton abby so far. did midsomer murders: midsomer life on netflix this weekend. ok too. pretty open to good mysteries including lovejoy. hate sci-fi.
- bill 1-24-2011 12:28 pm [add a comment]


  • The great defender of Modernism "hates" the most prototypically modern genre.
    - alex 1-24-2011 2:56 pm [add a comment]


  • "...the most prototypically modern genre."

    ahh, but is it ?


    - bill 1-24-2011 3:03 pm [add a comment]



i wouldnt say downton abbey is great by any measure but its perfectly enjoyable to loll around in that universe. the white ribbon which i think i mentioned on cinefiles provides a far more modern and compelling vision of the manor/village life albeit in germany. this is idealized and anodyne by comparison.
- dave 1-24-2011 3:36 pm [add a comment]


...it's no upstairs downstairs.
- bill 1-24-2011 3:41 pm [add a comment]


The White Ribbon was brilliant.
- L.M. 1-24-2011 3:42 pm [add a comment]


There is a new upstairs downstairs this year on BBC. Set in the 30's and Rose comes back to work as the housekeeper. (fuck! Why do I know this stupid shit)
- L.M. 1-24-2011 4:26 pm [add a comment]


just watching a bit of the original on youtube having never seen it. holds up well for being 40 years old.
- dave 1-24-2011 4:38 pm [add a comment]


USDS came on the heals of the forsyte saga.
- bill 1-24-2011 5:07 pm [add a comment]


whoops. i was watching the contemporary version. the production values seemed a bit high for 1971.
- dave 1-24-2011 5:08 pm [add a comment]





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