More digital pog blogging:
An earlier post on the subject of digital pogs addressed only the collectible aspect of these "caps." Yet in the physical world their main purpose, and means of exchange, is a game where the pogs are stacked and knocked over, with the pogs landing face up going to the winner. Some serious thought needs to be given to how digital pogs can acquire the edge of competition, gambling, and classroom disruption that led to their banishment in schools across America in '94-'95.
To put it more bluntly, how do you kick people's asses and get all their pogs with the digital version?
Marquees could slam them into each other.
Good question. I also wonder...what does "trading" mean in the context of digital copies? If I give you my pog I still get to keep it for myself, which somewhat takes the bite out of the exchange.
OK we have to sign an oath (on paper and then PDF it) that says if your marquee slams the slammer into the virtual stack and the php-generated odd-or-even system determines some of my pogs are "face up" then I will erase the original on my hard drive.
No problem, with my patent pending pog DRM software the losing pogs will automatically be erased. No trust necessary! You will just have to use our closed source copyrighted .pog file format instead of .gif, as well as viewing the pogs in our DRM enabled browser. But honest, I'll give you a real good deal on the .pog maker and browser software. You won't regret it!
Shit Fuck Damn Jim! Now all my clients are demanding I use your overpriced software, hopefully I can find a crack on limewire.
Ok, open source issues aside, it could be done in Flash using the "shared object" which is kind of like a cookie that lives on each user's computer that sends data back & forth to the central website (in this case the pog game).
Guthrie did this marquee battle:
the origin of a pogs were caps to milk bottles. thats purposeful in its shape as a stopper. virtual art in the round (shaped canvas) has always been a curious choice. they dont stack efficiently in tubes (like so many pringels or real pogs). they arnt as efficient surface space users as (square) avatars are. they arnt scarce or rare like a mickey mantel base ball card, so they all have the same even up value, because you can make unlimited copies at will. so that makes the original pog game moot. but they are free with an internet connection. i like it.
Cell phones. Perfect place for pogs. I'll get some bekeley undergrads on it.
Digipogs would be efficient space savers if html tables were based on hexagons instead of rectangles. But they aren't. Where is the Bucky Fuller of web design?
digipogs need to follow the rules of power rangers, most awesome wins.
my vote for sheer awesomeness, picked out Michael Bell Smith's growing collection, is the weird water/hair/weather one he made that is on the left in the marquee above.
The original source GIF is also distinctively bizarre.
I was discussing with a friend the implication of digital pogs as a wider internet phenomenon...
a pog battle program could take Michael's basic pog-collection HTML structure, and pit two websites full of collections together (it would parse the tables, etc.). if a given website doesn't follow his website structure, the program could scrape other images on the page, i.e. you could host Michael Bell-Smith's collection vs. CNN.com; maybe the waving hair pog would lose to an infographic-about-america's-obesity pog
as for the spoils of winning, maybe the program that could turn lost pogs into 256 colors, or maybe INVERT them
That image is indeed bizarre... is it Jesus? I thought my brain was inventing the hair reference, but no.
I assumed it was some hair band dude with aspirations to Jesushood. (?)
Thanks for your suggestions, Jeff. I do think that the pog meme should spread as a kind of anti-avatar, anti-content item that interacts with things like CNN obesity graphics and eventually, like nanotech grey goo, just destroys them. It can't be forced too much, though. A lot will depend on how infectious they are in terms of people saving them, using them on their pages... As opposed to the typical new media bright idea that gets a ton of hype among the tribe but goes nowhere, like the "Street Meme" site that had everybody all excited for about 15 minutes.
hair guy is the "Lion from Zion"
heres mine
I n eed some infornation. I have a pog slammer.. Its very heavy..brass I think and there is a 3D piture of the drama twins.. Drama and Commedy.. there mask..
If anyone can help me know something. it;s valu and such...
pleaseemail me at
lakotahwriter2yahoo.com
thanks.
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More digital pog blogging:
An earlier post on the subject of digital pogs addressed only the collectible aspect of these "caps." Yet in the physical world their main purpose, and means of exchange, is a game where the pogs are stacked and knocked over, with the pogs landing face up going to the winner. Some serious thought needs to be given to how digital pogs can acquire the edge of competition, gambling, and classroom disruption that led to their banishment in schools across America in '94-'95.
To put it more bluntly, how do you kick people's asses and get all their pogs with the digital version?
- tom moody 11-28-2006 4:53 pm
Marquees could slam them into each other.
- Travis (guest) 11-28-2006 6:13 pm
Good question. I also wonder...what does "trading" mean in the context of digital copies? If I give you my pog I still get to keep it for myself, which somewhat takes the bite out of the exchange.
- sally mckay 11-28-2006 8:39 pm
OK we have to sign an oath (on paper and then PDF it) that says if your marquee slams the slammer into the virtual stack and the php-generated odd-or-even system determines some of my pogs are "face up" then I will erase the original on my hard drive.
- tom moody 11-28-2006 9:02 pm
No problem, with my patent pending pog DRM software the losing pogs will automatically be erased. No trust necessary! You will just have to use our closed source copyrighted .pog file format instead of .gif, as well as viewing the pogs in our DRM enabled browser. But honest, I'll give you a real good deal on the .pog maker and browser software. You won't regret it!
- jim 11-28-2006 9:14 pm
Shit Fuck Damn Jim! Now all my clients are demanding I use your overpriced software, hopefully I can find a crack on limewire.
- L.M. 11-28-2006 10:25 pm
Ok, open source issues aside, it could be done in Flash using the "shared object" which is kind of like a cookie that lives on each user's computer that sends data back & forth to the central website (in this case the pog game).
- Thor Johnson 11-28-2006 11:43 pm
Guthrie did this marquee battle:
- tom moody 11-29-2006 12:12 am
the origin of a pogs were caps to milk bottles. thats purposeful in its shape as a stopper. virtual art in the round (shaped canvas) has always been a curious choice. they dont stack efficiently in tubes (like so many pringels or real pogs). they arnt as efficient surface space users as (square) avatars are. they arnt scarce or rare like a mickey mantel base ball card, so they all have the same even up value, because you can make unlimited copies at will. so that makes the original pog game moot. but they are free with an internet connection. i like it.
- bill 11-29-2006 12:22 am
Cell phones. Perfect place for pogs. I'll get some bekeley undergrads on it.
- joester 11-29-2006 5:06 am
Digipogs would be efficient space savers if html tables were based on hexagons instead of rectangles. But they aren't. Where is the Bucky Fuller of web design?
- tom moody 11-30-2006 10:54 am
digipogs need to follow the rules of power rangers, most awesome wins.
- matto (guest) 12-01-2006 1:50 am
my vote for sheer awesomeness, picked out Michael Bell Smith's growing collection, is the weird water/hair/weather one he made that is on the left in the marquee above.
- sally mckay 12-01-2006 2:43 am
The original source GIF is also distinctively bizarre.
- tom moody 12-01-2006 2:49 am
I was discussing with a friend the implication of digital pogs as a wider internet phenomenon...
a pog battle program could take Michael's basic pog-collection HTML structure, and pit two websites full of collections together (it would parse the tables, etc.). if a given website doesn't follow his website structure, the program could scrape other images on the page, i.e. you could host Michael Bell-Smith's collection vs. CNN.com; maybe the waving hair pog would lose to an infographic-about-america's-obesity pog
as for the spoils of winning, maybe the program that could turn lost pogs into 256 colors, or maybe INVERT them
- jeff (guest) 12-01-2006 9:34 pm
That image is indeed bizarre... is it Jesus? I thought my brain was inventing the hair reference, but no.
- sally mckay 12-01-2006 11:02 pm
I assumed it was some hair band dude with aspirations to Jesushood. (?)
Thanks for your suggestions, Jeff. I do think that the pog meme should spread as a kind of anti-avatar, anti-content item that interacts with things like CNN obesity graphics and eventually, like nanotech grey goo, just destroys them. It can't be forced too much, though. A lot will depend on how infectious they are in terms of people saving them, using them on their pages... As opposed to the typical new media bright idea that gets a ton of hype among the tribe but goes nowhere, like the "Street Meme" site that had everybody all excited for about 15 minutes.
- tom moody 12-01-2006 11:17 pm
hair guy is the "Lion from Zion"
- Thor Johnson 12-02-2006 3:02 am
heres mine
- bill 12-04-2006 5:53 pm
I n eed some infornation. I have a pog slammer.. Its very heavy..brass I think and there is a 3D piture of the drama twins.. Drama and Commedy.. there mask..
If anyone can help me know something. it;s valu and such...
pleaseemail me at
lakotahwriter2yahoo.com
thanks.
- lakotahwriter (guest) 2-26-2007 5:01 pm