tom
RE: "Sure, we panelists knew what the ground rules were, but who would have anticipated comment on blogging artists linking to their respective pages like it was weird or something?"
i thin maybe it's important to be specific here. so you are referring to Melinda Rackham's post:
From: melinda AT subtle.net
Subject: [-empyre-] point of reference
Date: June 3, 2005 7:21:08 PM CDT
when you write "who would have anticipated comment on blogging artists linking to their respective pages like it was weird or something?"? is that correct? i don't thin Rackham's 2005.01.03 post is a dis or a dig @ all. but i do thin that you are being very defensive when it comes to the empyre discussion. ppl are going to post all sorts of stuff, ranging from what you will determine is relevant to irrelevant, supportive to dismissive, engaging to detached. ppl are going to post opinions + positions + that is the entire point of having a lively discussion. why wouldn't you want everyOne to engage + contribute in whatever ways they feel are the most appropriate to the conversation?
i thin Rackham's 2005.01.03 post is observational + factual ++ has a kind of request for focus embedded in it that is completely appropriate for her as an admin of the list where the discussion is supposed to be happening. i can say, from my experience as a guest on empyre, that the admins work tirelessly to facilitate the conversations + to encourage lively discussion. i seriously don't understand why you would begin w/the assumption that you (as a guest) are in opposition to the admins or the list members who have posted so far. like i wrote in reply to Chris Ashley in my 2005.01.08 post "Subject: [-empyre-] clarifying: a reply..." the "us vs. them" binary is almost totally nonfunctional + very destructive. why would you want to mobilize that position? or more importantly, why assume an oppositional position from the beginning?
which makes me wonder, as does Mathieu O'Neil in his post:
From: oneil AT homemail.com.au
Subject: Re: G0|\|3 was Re: [-empyre-] F:reW4LL
Date: June 9, 2005 12:12:45 AM CDT
if you personally are opposed to the {mechanics|culture} of lists in general or empyre in specific why join as a guest in the 1rst place?
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RE: "Sure, we panelists knew what the ground rules were, but who would have anticipated comment on blogging artists linking to their respective pages like it was weird or something?"
i thin maybe it's important to be specific here. so you are referring to Melinda Rackham's post:
From: melinda AT subtle.net
Subject: [-empyre-] point of reference
Date: June 3, 2005 7:21:08 PM CDT
when you write "who would have anticipated comment on blogging artists linking to their respective pages like it was weird or something?"? is that correct? i don't thin Rackham's 2005.01.03 post is a dis or a dig @ all. but i do thin that you are being very defensive when it comes to the empyre discussion. ppl are going to post all sorts of stuff, ranging from what you will determine is relevant to irrelevant, supportive to dismissive, engaging to detached. ppl are going to post opinions + positions + that is the entire point of having a lively discussion. why wouldn't you want everyOne to engage + contribute in whatever ways they feel are the most appropriate to the conversation?
i thin Rackham's 2005.01.03 post is observational + factual ++ has a kind of request for focus embedded in it that is completely appropriate for her as an admin of the list where the discussion is supposed to be happening. i can say, from my experience as a guest on empyre, that the admins work tirelessly to facilitate the conversations + to encourage lively discussion. i seriously don't understand why you would begin w/the assumption that you (as a guest) are in opposition to the admins or the list members who have posted so far. like i wrote in reply to Chris Ashley in my 2005.01.08 post "Subject: [-empyre-] clarifying: a reply..." the "us vs. them" binary is almost totally nonfunctional + very destructive. why would you want to mobilize that position? or more importantly, why assume an oppositional position from the beginning?
which makes me wonder, as does Mathieu O'Neil in his post:
From: oneil AT homemail.com.au
Subject: Re: G0|\|3 was Re: [-empyre-] F:reW4LL
Date: June 9, 2005 12:12:45 AM CDT
if you personally are opposed to the {mechanics|culture} of lists in general or empyre in specific why join as a guest in the 1rst place?
- jonCates 6-09-2005 7:18 pm