Can anyone with IE on Windows (or just anyone that was having these troubles) comment on the formatting on the discussion pages? Is it still bold? Otherwise screwed up? Thanks.
Can't help you there but the site is moving like molasses in winter for me this am. Anyone else?
Yes, it was for me too, although now it's fine again. I think this is the negative part of the usually positive fact that we are directly connected to MAE WEST (Metropolitan Area Exchange West) one of the two biggest nodes in the world. It's good because MAE WEST never goes down (or it would be a disaster if it did - probably the whole net would crash) but the bad part is that the system is overcrowded (because almost all traffic goes through this node.) This is especially true for the high traffic times of day/week. My understanding is that the highest traffic periods are weekdays (workdays) between 7:00 and 9:00 am. I guess people surf when they first come into work? Anyway, 7:00 to 9:00 am PST (where the server is) would be 10:00 to 12:00 EST. So maybe it is that sort of thing.
Or maybe not. It is so hard to tell with our present set up, because there are hundreds (maybe over a thousand) different sites all being served off the same computer. So maybe it is something with the server itself, and not with the general net. I don't know. When I finally get our new server up we'll at least know the answer to some of these questions. Anyway, sorry about the slow going. Hopefully things will get better soon.
One more thing. Often times if you request a page (or try to post something) and it stalls for a really long time, the problem is that your packets got dropped somewhere. If you hit stop and try again, it will often go right through. If you have submitted a post and it is stalled while still on the posting screen, most likely the post has actually gone through, and you are just stalled waiting for the redirection to the page where you would view the post you just make. So if you stop and do it again you'll get a double post. If you think you are stalled hit stop and try it again, or in the case of posting, hit stop and then check if it got posted. I know this is a pain, but this is a matter of network topology (and me not spending any money on hosting the site) rather than design (he says somewhat defensively.) I've heard that packet loss can occasionally reach 10% going through MAE West, although that seems a little hard to believe. Still, slow might mean lost rather than slow.
still bold - but that is all. formatting is ok.
On my Comcast@home browser (a modified--and inferior--IE) the font size jumps dramatically when you click from, say, the treehouse to the comments page. I don't know if it's bold--it all looks bold to me. The change just happened recently.
How are we doing now? I'll be surprised if it's not the same as the main treehouse page. Whether that is a good look itself is a different question. Font size is basically impossible to get right across browsers. But we'll do some tuning in the next version (I know I know) becasue it's easy to swap in differnt style sheet pages depending on the persons browser.
now its really whack. this page has two fonts (sizes) some are large and some small. other comments pages messed too. it was fine for awhile today. earlier they were bold.
problem might be confined to treehouse comments pages
Yes, good catch. JAIA (Just Another Incremental Adjustment.) Did that solve the 2 sized font problem?
I'm not seeing any problems on any of the pages today.
It all looks good on my mac. (not that that helps) As for design, I think you are one of the best designers I've seen Jim. Really simple, to the point, not a bunch of "esthetic" shoved down our throats. Font size, style is good IMHO
still bold for me - only on treehouse comments pages.
formatting is fine. i wouldn't worry about it jim - put your mind to bigger and better projects.
<blush/>
Of course the reason it doesn't have any particular "esthetic" (pushed down the throat or not) is because I have none of the skills required to have a design esthetic. This must be some sort of comment on the state of web design that this makes you seem like a good designer. I guess "nothing" is better than "bad." But where's the good?
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- jim 3-08-2001 2:23 pm
Can't help you there but the site is moving like molasses in winter for me this am. Anyone else?
- steve 3-08-2001 4:42 pm [add a comment]
Yes, it was for me too, although now it's fine again. I think this is the negative part of the usually positive fact that we are directly connected to MAE WEST (Metropolitan Area Exchange West) one of the two biggest nodes in the world. It's good because MAE WEST never goes down (or it would be a disaster if it did - probably the whole net would crash) but the bad part is that the system is overcrowded (because almost all traffic goes through this node.) This is especially true for the high traffic times of day/week. My understanding is that the highest traffic periods are weekdays (workdays) between 7:00 and 9:00 am. I guess people surf when they first come into work? Anyway, 7:00 to 9:00 am PST (where the server is) would be 10:00 to 12:00 EST. So maybe it is that sort of thing.
Or maybe not. It is so hard to tell with our present set up, because there are hundreds (maybe over a thousand) different sites all being served off the same computer. So maybe it is something with the server itself, and not with the general net. I don't know. When I finally get our new server up we'll at least know the answer to some of these questions. Anyway, sorry about the slow going. Hopefully things will get better soon.
- jim 3-08-2001 8:01 pm [add a comment]
One more thing. Often times if you request a page (or try to post something) and it stalls for a really long time, the problem is that your packets got dropped somewhere. If you hit stop and try again, it will often go right through. If you have submitted a post and it is stalled while still on the posting screen, most likely the post has actually gone through, and you are just stalled waiting for the redirection to the page where you would view the post you just make. So if you stop and do it again you'll get a double post. If you think you are stalled hit stop and try it again, or in the case of posting, hit stop and then check if it got posted. I know this is a pain, but this is a matter of network topology (and me not spending any money on hosting the site) rather than design (he says somewhat defensively.) I've heard that packet loss can occasionally reach 10% going through MAE West, although that seems a little hard to believe. Still, slow might mean lost rather than slow.
- jim 3-08-2001 8:14 pm [add a comment]
I've experienced the stalled post window, double post thing
- steve 3-08-2001 10:56 pm [add a comment]
still bold - but that is all. formatting is ok.
- linda 3-08-2001 4:57 pm [add a comment]
On my Comcast@home browser (a modified--and inferior--IE) the font size jumps dramatically when you click from, say, the treehouse to the comments page. I don't know if it's bold--it all looks bold to me. The change just happened recently.
- Tom Moody 3-09-2001 2:16 am [add a comment]
How are we doing now? I'll be surprised if it's not the same as the main treehouse page. Whether that is a good look itself is a different question. Font size is basically impossible to get right across browsers. But we'll do some tuning in the next version (I know I know) becasue it's easy to swap in differnt style sheet pages depending on the persons browser.
- jim 3-08-2001 11:35 pm [add a comment]
now its really whack. this page has two fonts (sizes) some are large and some small. other comments pages messed too. it was fine for awhile today. earlier they were bold.
- dave 3-09-2001 2:54 am [add a comment]
problem might be confined to treehouse comments pages
- dave 3-09-2001 3:07 am [add a comment]
Yes, good catch. JAIA (Just Another Incremental Adjustment.) Did that solve the 2 sized font problem?
- jim 3-09-2001 3:43 am [add a comment]
now the comments are all a smaller font while the main page is the "regular" font im used to seeing.
- dave 3-09-2001 4:01 am [add a comment]
Strange. We'll get to the bottom of this. But not tonight. I'm going to dinner. Read/Write you all tomorrow.
- jim 3-09-2001 4:02 am [add a comment]
I'm not seeing any problems on any of the pages today.
- jimlouis 3-09-2001 3:03 am [add a comment]
It all looks good on my mac. (not that that helps) As for design, I think you are one of the best designers I've seen Jim. Really simple, to the point, not a bunch of "esthetic" shoved down our throats. Font size, style is good IMHO
- steve 3-09-2001 3:29 am [add a comment]
still bold for me - only on treehouse comments pages.
formatting is fine. i wouldn't worry about it jim - put your mind to bigger and better projects.
- linda 3-09-2001 4:05 am [add a comment]
<blush/>
Of course the reason it doesn't have any particular "esthetic" (pushed down the throat or not) is because I have none of the skills required to have a design esthetic. This must be some sort of comment on the state of web design that this makes you seem like a good designer. I guess "nothing" is better than "bad." But where's the good?
- jim 3-09-2001 4:07 am [add a comment]
as they used to say on the West Coast "Just let it in man"
- steve 3-09-2001 10:17 am [add a comment]