lessig speaks up for obama.
nice. very nice.
Someone posted about it at Daily Kos in the wee hours (well, wee hours for the left coast). I posted a "bump" diary in the hopes that the original would get enough recommends to rise to the rec list.
1. "by the next year the speech was off your website": Lessig doesn't disprove this by showing that the speech was on the website every *month* up until the end of the first year. The point is after a year the speech was gone.
2. Bad flub: Lessig says "Osama bin Laden" when he means "Saddam Hussein" (talking about "better intelligence regarding..." leading up to the Iraq war).
3. Obama invoking Reagan was bullshit any way you slice it.
I'm voting for Obama to pay Clinton back for the Iraq vote (and her lack of apology for same), FYI. I like Lessig's point that we need to show the world we don't agree with the Bushes or their supporters such as the Clintons.
1. a) Link rot is not a crime. b) This disappearance of the speech was mitigated by other statements of disapproval about the war. That being said, I was pissed when Feinstein (in Jan '03 after voting for the war) said Bush couldn't be trusted, and in the run up to the war (spring of '03) buried the speech. This hints at that sort of behavior. c) Of all the issues to bring up, Clinton(s) picked this one?!! Can't say they don't have chutzpah.
3.) The Reagan bullshit is an uncomfortable indicator of a possible triangulator. Sure, there are worse examples to cite (Manson), but there are better ones (FDR). Obama's chatter about the Social Security "crisis" is another indicator of triangulation. My biggest concern with Obama is that he'll be another bend-over centrist -- that he won't be transformative. However, the angle Clinton took to attack Obama on this point was plainly dishonest, when there were obvious ways to play this honestly. Bad Hillary! The episode doesn't reflect well on Obama, but it reflects worse on Hillary.
I think world opinion of the US took a hit below the waterline when we, as a nation, re-elected the motherfucker in '04. Obama isn't a complete repudiation, but he's the closest we've got.
|
- dave 2-05-2008 6:22 pm
nice. very nice.
- mark 2-05-2008 6:51 pm
Someone posted about it at Daily Kos in the wee hours (well, wee hours for the left coast). I posted a "bump" diary in the hopes that the original would get enough recommends to rise to the rec list.
- mark 2-05-2008 7:18 pm
1. "by the next year the speech was off your website": Lessig doesn't disprove this by showing that the speech was on the website every *month* up until the end of the first year. The point is after a year the speech was gone.
2. Bad flub: Lessig says "Osama bin Laden" when he means "Saddam Hussein" (talking about "better intelligence regarding..." leading up to the Iraq war).
3. Obama invoking Reagan was bullshit any way you slice it.
I'm voting for Obama to pay Clinton back for the Iraq vote (and her lack of apology for same), FYI. I like Lessig's point that we need to show the world we don't agree with the Bushes or their supporters such as the Clintons.
- tom moody 2-05-2008 9:00 pm
1. a) Link rot is not a crime. b) This disappearance of the speech was mitigated by other statements of disapproval about the war. That being said, I was pissed when Feinstein (in Jan '03 after voting for the war) said Bush couldn't be trusted, and in the run up to the war (spring of '03) buried the speech. This hints at that sort of behavior. c) Of all the issues to bring up, Clinton(s) picked this one?!! Can't say they don't have chutzpah.
3.) The Reagan bullshit is an uncomfortable indicator of a possible triangulator. Sure, there are worse examples to cite (Manson), but there are better ones (FDR). Obama's chatter about the Social Security "crisis" is another indicator of triangulation. My biggest concern with Obama is that he'll be another bend-over centrist -- that he won't be transformative. However, the angle Clinton took to attack Obama on this point was plainly dishonest, when there were obvious ways to play this honestly. Bad Hillary! The episode doesn't reflect well on Obama, but it reflects worse on Hillary.
I think world opinion of the US took a hit below the waterline when we, as a nation, re-elected the motherfucker in '04. Obama isn't a complete repudiation, but he's the closest we've got.
- mark 2-05-2008 10:23 pm