Maya Lin talks about the Ground Zero tribute.
Yeah, a memorial listing the entire population of New York City! That way we could spend the next ten years arguing about who lived here and who was just visiting. Also, what about NJ residents who work in the city and/or saw the towers fall? Also, that self-congratulatory plan may seem pretty dated if there's a second attack (knock wood that there won't be). Would there have to be an update? Maybe make the list a digital LED readout so names can be added and subtracted as needed? Goofy.
Best idea I've heard so far: pay off the current WTC ground leaseholder and just have a huge empty green space.
Here's the Lower Manhattan Development Corp's official presentation of the plans. Really they are variations on one plan, which has yet to prove inspirational. People want something special out of this, but the bureaucracy is ill suited for innovation. I think it's likely that the process will be tinkered with, but whether a leap of imagination can be accomplished is more dubious. Warmongers like the NY Post keep pushing for something truly impressive, i.e. phallic. They recently published a poll claiming that half of New Yorkers want the towers rebuilt just as they were.
these plans are starting to receive resistance.
"Buildings as tall as the original WTC" are apparently out, for anyone in the planning process that matters. Yet twice when I've turned on WINS for the weather I've caught a sound clip of a local saying something like "I think we need towers as big--no, bigger--than the original." One clip added: "So we can send a message to terrorists that says we stand tall, and you can't...blah blah" I guess this is just tabloid catering to some imagined Everyperson--to make us feel good when the reality is shorter buildings.
This is my favorite commentary on the process so far. John (son of Norman) Podhoretz suggests that mediocre designs were presented by design, in order to create a better bargaining position. That's what you gotta love about neoconservativism: the purity of its cynicism. (inserted in comments due to add-choked, expiration prone site)
SCAPEGOATS BY DESIGN
By JOHN PODHORETZ NY Post 7/19/02
July 19, 2002 --
THE most brilliant political gambit in the past week took place in full public view on Tuesday, when the six designs for the World Trade Center site were released.
Did I call them designs? They weren't really designs at all. Rather, they were scapegoats in design form. And they served their purpose brilliantly. Everybody with a bone to pick or an ax to grind went after the designs with a vengeance. They've been torn to shreds. Nobody has a good word to say about them.
The buildings are too big. The memorial is too small. The memorial is in the wrong place. There's too much retail space. They're clunky. There's not enough beauty. A critic at another newspaper even suggested the designs are failures because they don't take into account just how much America is hated by the rest of the world.
Sounds like a big failure? Actually, the proceeding was an enormous success.
The Port Authority and the Lower Manhattan Redevelopment Corporation urban planners responsible for the six designs knew perfectly well that whatever they came up with at first would be deemed an outrage, a monstrosity, a work of evil.
So rather than offer a solitary design to absorb the rage, disappointment and hatred of those viewing it, planner Alexander Garvin and the architectural firm of Beyer Blinder Belle offered up six designs to absorb the blows.
Garvin & Co. know that the various constituent groups vying for control of the site have wildly conflicting interests, and nothing could have satisfied all of them. Indeed, such groups get their power in large measure from standing in opposition. If a constituent group acts like an immovable object, it might be able to force others to compromise.
To take the most poignant example, the families of the 9/11 victims - or at least their self-appointed leaders - are committed to the proposition that nothing should be built on the "footprints" where the two mammoth buildings stood. That's "sacred ground," they say, and four of the six designs keep the footprints unfilled as a result. They're far uglier, by common consensus, than the two designs that use some of the footprints.
Moving from the sublime to the ridiculous, we leave the victims' families and come to the no-growth crowd. The no-growthers exists to oppose any kind of new construction in the city, even if it's only meant to replace what went before. This view has hardened into something approaching a religious doctrine, which makes arguing with it almost impossible.
The no-growthers are made especially livid by commercial development - even in a place where there has been little but commercial property for a century or more. They're repelled by the fact that the Port Authority is insisting that every square foot of space it leased out before 9/11 be rebuilt.
Then there are the wacko utopians, who seem to think that Osama bin Laden cleared out a nice chunk of space in which to accomplish all sorts of lovely things, and who are especially angered by the amount of retail space in the designs.
Nobody's happy. And there's no question that this insistence has led the planners to create tall, fat buildings that seem bereft of delicacy and understatement.
But I suspect this is something the planners and the powers-that-be consciously anticipated. Since they knew their first designs wouldn't survive, they used their initial designs to establish a negotiating position. Since they have offered a somewhat extreme set of initial proposals, they can now comfortably negotiate backward.
The resulting compromise will feature large buildings, but not so large. There will be retail, but it won't be quite so dominant. And as memorial designs themselves become a subject of debate, I suspect the sacred nature of the "footprints" will, too.
Let's face it: If the planners and architects had come up with a design to rival St. Peter's Basilica and the Sistine Chapel, the institutionalized opposition in New York City would have objected to it simply as a matter of course.
It's sad, but true: By offering up mediocrity to begin with, Alexander Garvin and his colleagues can conclude this process with a beautiful, viable and meaningful replacement for the nightmarish hole at Ground Zero.
Fiendishly clever, those planners. And so smart of Poddie Jr to see through it. I can just hear'em saying "Hey, that design looks too excellent--don't forget, the first six have to be mediocre!" But then, I'm just a wacky utopian.
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- bill 7-09-2002 7:21 pm
Yeah, a memorial listing the entire population of New York City! That way we could spend the next ten years arguing about who lived here and who was just visiting. Also, what about NJ residents who work in the city and/or saw the towers fall? Also, that self-congratulatory plan may seem pretty dated if there's a second attack (knock wood that there won't be). Would there have to be an update? Maybe make the list a digital LED readout so names can be added and subtracted as needed? Goofy.
Best idea I've heard so far: pay off the current WTC ground leaseholder and just have a huge empty green space.
- tom moody 7-09-2002 8:08 pm [add a comment]
more green space would suit me / have they added an apendex plynth to VNM with mia updates ?
- bill 7-09-2002 9:31 pm [add a comment]
there goes the green space concept / they will choose one of the following six proposed plans and they all provide for the replacement of 11,000,000 sf of commercial space.
- bill 7-16-2002 8:51 pm [add a comment]
I heard last week on NPR that Bloomberg didn't like any of the proposals and was encourging more people to submit designs.
- sarah 7-16-2002 11:31 pm [add a comment]
Here's the Lower Manhattan Development Corp's official presentation of the plans. Really they are variations on one plan, which has yet to prove inspirational. People want something special out of this, but the bureaucracy is ill suited for innovation. I think it's likely that the process will be tinkered with, but whether a leap of imagination can be accomplished is more dubious. Warmongers like the NY Post keep pushing for something truly impressive, i.e. phallic. They recently published a poll claiming that half of New Yorkers want the towers rebuilt just as they were.
- alex 7-17-2002 6:26 pm [add a comment]
these plans are starting to receive resistance.
- bill 7-23-2002 6:41 pm [add a comment]
"Buildings as tall as the original WTC" are apparently out, for anyone in the planning process that matters. Yet twice when I've turned on WINS for the weather I've caught a sound clip of a local saying something like "I think we need towers as big--no, bigger--than the original." One clip added: "So we can send a message to terrorists that says we stand tall, and you can't...blah blah" I guess this is just tabloid catering to some imagined Everyperson--to make us feel good when the reality is shorter buildings.
- tom moody 7-23-2002 9:07 pm [add a comment]
This is my favorite commentary on the process so far. John (son of Norman) Podhoretz suggests that mediocre designs were presented by design, in order to create a better bargaining position. That's what you gotta love about neoconservativism: the purity of its cynicism.
(inserted in comments due to add-choked, expiration prone site)
- alex 7-24-2002 12:10 am [add a comment]
SCAPEGOATS BY DESIGN
By JOHN PODHORETZ
NY Post 7/19/02
July 19, 2002 --
THE most brilliant political gambit in the past week took
place in full public view on Tuesday, when the six designs
for the World Trade Center site were released.
Did I call them designs? They weren't really designs at all.
Rather, they were scapegoats in design form. And they
served their purpose brilliantly. Everybody with a bone to
pick or an ax to grind went after the designs with a
vengeance. They've been torn to shreds. Nobody has a good
word to say about them.
The buildings are too big. The memorial is too small. The
memorial is in the wrong place. There's too much retail
space. They're clunky. There's not enough beauty. A critic
at another newspaper even suggested the designs are
failures because they don't take into account just how much
America is hated by the rest of the world.
Sounds like a big failure? Actually, the proceeding was an
enormous success.
The Port Authority and the Lower Manhattan
Redevelopment Corporation urban planners responsible for
the six designs knew perfectly well that whatever they came
up with at first would be deemed an outrage, a monstrosity, a
work of evil.
So rather than offer a solitary design to absorb the rage,
disappointment and hatred of those viewing it, planner
Alexander Garvin and the architectural firm of Beyer
Blinder Belle offered up six designs to absorb the blows.
Garvin & Co. know that the various constituent groups vying
for control of the site have wildly conflicting interests, and
nothing could have satisfied all of them. Indeed, such groups
get their power in large measure from standing in opposition.
If a constituent group acts like an immovable object, it might
be able to force others to compromise.
To take the most poignant example, the families of the 9/11
victims - or at least their self-appointed leaders - are
committed to the proposition that nothing should be built on
the "footprints" where the two mammoth buildings stood.
That's "sacred ground," they say, and four of the six designs
keep the footprints unfilled as a result. They're far uglier, by
common consensus, than the two designs that use some of
the footprints.
Moving from the sublime to the ridiculous, we leave the
victims' families and come to the no-growth crowd. The
no-growthers exists to oppose any kind of new construction
in the city, even if it's only meant to replace what went
before. This view has hardened into something approaching
a religious doctrine, which makes arguing with it almost
impossible.
The no-growthers are made especially livid by commercial
development - even in a place where there has been little but
commercial property for a century or more. They're repelled
by the fact that the Port Authority is insisting that every
square foot of space it leased out before 9/11 be rebuilt.
Then there are the wacko utopians, who seem to think that
Osama bin Laden cleared out a nice chunk of space in
which to accomplish all sorts of lovely things, and who are
especially angered by the amount of retail space in the
designs.
Nobody's happy. And there's no question that this insistence
has led the planners to create tall, fat buildings that seem
bereft of delicacy and understatement.
But I suspect this is something the planners and the
powers-that-be consciously anticipated. Since they knew
their first designs wouldn't survive, they used their initial
designs to establish a negotiating position. Since they have
offered a somewhat extreme set of initial proposals, they can
now comfortably negotiate backward.
The resulting compromise will feature large buildings, but not
so large. There will be retail, but it won't be quite so
dominant. And as memorial designs themselves become a
subject of debate, I suspect the sacred nature of the
"footprints" will, too.
Let's face it: If the planners and architects had come up with
a design to rival St. Peter's Basilica and the Sistine Chapel,
the institutionalized opposition in New York City would have
objected to it simply as a matter of course.
It's sad, but true: By offering up mediocrity to begin with,
Alexander Garvin and his colleagues can conclude this
process with a beautiful, viable and meaningful replacement
for the nightmarish hole at Ground Zero.
- alex 7-24-2002 12:11 am [add a comment]
Fiendishly clever, those planners. And so smart of Poddie Jr to see through it. I can just hear'em saying "Hey, that design looks too excellent--don't forget, the first six have to be mediocre!" But then, I'm just a wacky utopian.
- tom moody 7-24-2002 3:01 am [add a comment]