if it bleeds it leads - 34 comment in 2 days!! our boys a hit!!
"Tom Moody's role right now seems to be to that of the idiot-king of net art (a
term he himself seems incapable of comprehending). The object of fear
and sycophancy in equal measure, he slouches in his 90s-aesthetic
open-source throne, dispensing pronouncements whose pomposity is matched only by their sheer petty-mindedness."
totally ripe subject w/ 70+ comments and pj proposes a comment thread closure because of, you know, bickering. what is the matter with this crew??? dinks!!!
we have a long history here with tom and we love him like a brother. but oh brother he can drive you crazy with the rhetorical stunts. and just
so the folks back at afc dont feel like theyve been singled out im going to recap a few of his all too familiar, er.. ethical short cuts as follows:
1) leave the most intelligent counter arguments and most well informed factual error corrections on the table with a double reverse straw man challenge. that is, make a preemptive straw man argument call with even the slightest hint of a possibility of one. (if no hint of one exists, go ahead and call it anyway. the taint of a SMC is embarrassing, difficult and time consuming to dismantle.) thus our guy has avoided dealing with or engaging in a productive dialogue with risk of abandoning or modifying an unsubstantiated proclamation of absolute truth.
2) defensive posturing. often involves the preemptive "ad hominem" call. this one is pretty hard to swallow most of the time because of tom's self described "take no prisoners" approach to internet forums. so, come on strong at first with a frustrating approach and then pounce on the opposing party when they return fire in kind. we used to get this a lot here in the mac vs pc discussions. somehow mac users, with a smaller market share were the bullies and he the "hey man. im the (michrosoft is the peoples computer-faithful) victim here!"
per the wiki link:
Gratuitous verbal abuse or "name-calling" itself is not an ad hominem or a logical fallacy.
In order to become a fallacy, the insult would need to given as a reason for believing some conclusion, for example, "X is idiotically ignorant [of politics], so why should we listen to him now?"
being defensive is posturing if one frequently uses invectives themselves.
tom claims "im not married to gifs" but ive never seen him miss an opportunity criticize non-supporting parties and fomats. (this started off a long time ago with the safari "doesnt show them right" yang. our point is they show them how they show them. the internet is not standardized and various browsers where constantly upgrading.) so dont let mr m say that he's isnt an arch supporter. that said, i cant find anywhere where he definitively breaks down why gifs are important or makes clear the artistic significance of reworking gif pieces.
3) intellectual dishonesty. well ill have to affirm this call as well. if you chronically avoid dialogue which may lead to yielding to a better argument or backing away from a broad unsubstantiated claim...
i do like gifs btw. two of my favorite artists working in the medium are sally mccay and lm. they have a mature rich fully developed approach. sadly im a little nonplussed with tom's reworkings of late.
- bill 6-23-2011 10:20 pm [add a comment]
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if it bleeds it leads - 34 comment in 2 days!! our boys a hit!!
"Tom Moody's role right now seems to be to that of the idiot-king of net art (a term he himself seems incapable of comprehending). The object of fear and sycophancy in equal measure, he slouches in his 90s-aesthetic open-source throne, dispensing pronouncements whose pomposity is matched only by their sheer petty-mindedness."
- bill 6-19-2011 3:29 am [add a comment]
totally ripe subject w/ 70+ comments and pj proposes a comment thread closure because of, you know, bickering. what is the matter with this crew??? dinks!!!
- bill 6-22-2011 3:11 am [add a comment]
what a rip. we really havent even gotten into toms chronic "intellectual dishonesty."
- bill 6-22-2011 3:24 am [add a comment]
89 comments strong and this puppy is out of gas. torpedoed as it were by its very subject. tom is clearly the teachers pet, yet cant get past his feelings of rejection.
being defensive is posturing if one frequently uses invectives themselves. tom claims "im not married to gifs" but ive never seen him miss an opportunity criticize non-supporting parties and fomats. (this started off a long time ago with the safari "doesnt show them right" yang. our point is they show them how they show them. the internet is not standardized and various browsers where constantly upgrading.) so dont let mr m say that he's isnt an arch supporter. that said, i cant find anywhere where he definitively breaks down why gifs are important or makes clear the artistic significance of reworking gif pieces.dude, you've been moody'd
we have a long history here with tom and we love him like a brother. but oh brother he can drive you crazy with the rhetorical stunts. and just so the folks back at afc dont feel like theyve been singled out im going to recap a few of his all too familiar, er.. ethical short cuts as follows:
1) leave the most intelligent counter arguments and most well informed factual error corrections on the table with a double reverse straw man challenge. that is, make a preemptive straw man argument call with even the slightest hint of a possibility of one. (if no hint of one exists, go ahead and call it anyway. the taint of a SMC is embarrassing, difficult and time consuming to dismantle.) thus our guy has avoided dealing with or engaging in a productive dialogue with risk of abandoning or modifying an unsubstantiated proclamation of absolute truth.
2) defensive posturing. often involves the preemptive "ad hominem" call. this one is pretty hard to swallow most of the time because of tom's self described "take no prisoners" approach to internet forums. so, come on strong at first with a frustrating approach and then pounce on the opposing party when they return fire in kind. we used to get this a lot here in the mac vs pc discussions. somehow mac users, with a smaller market share were the bullies and he the "hey man. im the (michrosoft is the peoples computer-faithful) victim here!"
per the wiki link:
3) intellectual dishonesty. well ill have to affirm this call as well. if you chronically avoid dialogue which may lead to yielding to a better argument or backing away from a broad unsubstantiated claim...
i do like gifs btw. two of my favorite artists working in the medium are sally mccay and lm. they have a mature rich fully developed approach. sadly im a little nonplussed with tom's reworkings of late.
- bill 6-23-2011 10:20 pm [add a comment]