"It should be clear to all by now that what we have in the Bush team is a faith-based administration. It launched a faith-based war in Iraq, on the basis of faith-based intelligence, with a faith-based plan for Iraqi reconstruction, supported by faith-based tax cuts to generate faith-based revenues. This group believes that what matters in politics and economics are conviction and will — not facts, social science or history.

Personally, I don't believe the Bush team will pay a long-term political price for its faith-based intelligence about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Too many Americans, including me, believe in their guts that removing Saddam was the right thing to do, even if the W.M.D. intel was wrong."


I agree with Friedman's point here. That is, that the supporting intelegence wasnt there and we (too many Americans including Friedman) dont fucking care. The challenge is to get across why we and he should care.


- bill 2-02-2004 7:30 pm

& what exactly is Freedman's point ? That it is topical to be jocular about other peoples beliefs as long as you share the Reverend Freedman's adoration for facts, social science & history ?
Untergang Humbug Redux ! Just what is the last word in shame ? Could you fucking care less ?
- Pepsi Challenge (guest) 2-03-2004 6:54 pm [add a comment]


  • Hey, I've got a good one ! How many pilgrims does it take to stampede ? Three liters of the real thing go to anyone guessing correctly . By the way... Happy Birthday James Joyce !
    - Chismofocles (guest) 2-03-2004 8:17 pm [add a comment] [edit]



freedman v. friedman
- dave 2-03-2004 8:03 pm [add a comment]


  • That's right Dave, hit me with the digits. It takes only one two-faced pilgrim to cause a stampede.
    Which does your faith prefer: Classic, Cherry or Vanilla ?
    - Lowly (guest) 2-03-2004 8:35 pm [add a comment] [edit]


    • Some girl's mothers are bigger than
      Other girl's mothers
      - dave 2-03-2004 9:04 pm [add a comment]



sorry to see franks weak act back in action.


- bill 2-04-2004 2:13 am [add a comment]


  • I LOVE HAVING FRANK BACK
    - pam 2-04-2004 6:33 am [add a comment]


  • i like having pam back. wait, who is pam again? personally, i love franks wetbacks too, but theyre not kosher for beings passed over.
    - dave 2-04-2004 7:25 am [add a comment]


  • Pepsi Challenge!
    - steve 2-04-2004 8:00 am [add a comment]


  • i think hes a turd, but if steve and dave and pam like him well i must be missing somthing.
    - bill 2-04-2004 2:51 pm [add a comment]


    • Reminds me of that scene in Repo Man where Otto throws a dead rat on the lap of a really hot chick
      & instead of barfing she says - -How utterly charming- - & sprays mace in his face. Now let me help you here, Bill; yer Otto, I'm the hot chick & the word 'turd' is the dead rat. Still missing something ? Try conversing with the flowers.
      - Pills Warts (guest) 2-04-2004 8:03 pm [add a comment] [edit]


    • yeah this is what i was missing. dave and steve gave a shout out and now this spew. you may be a turd but your our turd. welcome home turd.
      - bill 2-04-2004 8:08 pm [add a comment]


    • FWIW I think lot's is missing. I can't help feeling that if this whole thing had gone down in person at the lowbrow over beers and white wine things would still be friendly. Reading and writing have their limitations.
      - steve 2-05-2004 2:47 am [add a comment]


      • do you think so ? Ive had frank and his family over to the house to break bread and spill beer with a bunch of the treers. We all know each other. What accounts for the constant flaming and condesention ?


        - bill 2-05-2004 3:39 pm [add a comment]


        • O what piety, such a plaintive anthem, your indignation overflows its two-sip Dixie cup. Yes Bill, it was wonderful how you got the pinball machine going for my kid, I will never forget it & we will always have Hoboken. Yet your incessant & usually scatological crassness toward me contradicts you constant pompous asides to your bogus quorum of Keebler elves. Walk on the street Bill & shit will get on your shoes. I am the shit. Look Bill, if you want I'll show you some of my moves & we can work up a routine to entertain all our unpunctuated lower-case fellow feeling artfags here at Woody Holler. If your are offended let me know, like ethel says, I like to know when I get things right!
          - Lowly Worm (guest) 2-05-2004 7:44 pm [add a comment] [edit]


        • oh yeah denial, i forgot to mention denial. is it to late to get than in. frank likes to flame and just about every one here has gotten an unsolicited liberal dose. many of us incessantly. when to say when ? when I did. when tom did. when bruno did. when alex did. the rest, they either dont feed trolls or they quote the smiths. who died and left you "the shit" ?
          - bill 2-05-2004 10:27 pm [add a comment]


          • Well then I take it back....you can't be Otto, you have to be Kevin now, but I still get to be Miss Macgruder, so there !
            - Feeling Seven-Up (guest) 2-06-2004 9:43 pm [add a comment] [edit]


  • well thats just insulting. nobody has ever accused me of liking anything. i have been known to lick a thing or two but nothing west of the Pecos.
    - dave 2-04-2004 4:28 pm [add a comment]



Lick this

Echinocactus texensis -- common name is horse crippler, or the Devil's pincushion.
- jeff 2-05-2004 8:34 am [add a comment]





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