Anyone have any green tea brand recommendations? I'd be curious to hear the Wheels ultra high end picks (I know he has some,) but I'm looking for something I could find in the east village and wouldn't cost more than the ridiculously overpriced coffee I drink too much of now. My first try was something called tazo. It's O.K., I guess, but can I do better?
- jim 3-03-2001 10:27 pm

jim we wil go to Ten Ren after brunch!! hook you up!!! with the bulk!! and a great pot!! the correct pot will cost but you as a starter can get a cheap one--jim the mid range bulk tea is 1/4 as expensive as use once/twice tea bags!!
- Skinny 3-04-2001 2:46 am [add a comment]



I like Typhoo tea, which comes in loose or bag form, available from Tea and Sympathy's store on Greenwich west of Seventh Avenue. It's strong and what we refer to as "builder's tea" or the beverage preferred by construction workers. Or there is Barry's Tea that Dean and Deluca import at an inflated price, it's a bag and as good as a cup of coffee in the morning, which makes it worth the price. Sometimes they don't have Barry's and you have to go with Lyon's, they're pretty much the same. None of these bags have strings, which make them ok as far as I'm concerned.
- rachael 3-05-2001 8:07 pm [add a comment]


  • "Builder" LOL great name! I was drinking Typhoo last week and had to step back down to the Breakfast teas. If we were tea drinkers here in the states we'd call it "Trucker"
    - steve 3-07-2001 4:50 pm [add a comment]



Thanks for the feedback. I went to Ten Ren with Wheel and bought a little pot for brewing green tea and 2 kinds of loose green tea. I'll report back after some experimenting. One thing I noticed was that MB pretty much wrote the whole thing off when she saw the (small) size of the pot. You'd think she was from Texas of something ("Oh, that's not big enough.") Anyway, maybe Rachael's Builder tea is more up her alley. Thanks again.
- jim 3-05-2001 8:19 pm [add a comment]


  • yes, their cups are teeny too, but you can keep drinking yummy tea ALL DAY LONG and not od on caffeine. i was doing good for a month on green tea, but when i got a coffee fit the other day, and bought a cappucino, i realized why i have been so crabby at work.
    - linda 3-06-2001 5:21 am [add a comment]


    • Having switched to tea, I haven't had a cup of coffee in over a year. I didn't experience any sort of withdrawl. Instead, I immediately felt much more energy, no mid-day crash or teeth grinding.
      Funny thing that body chemestry, the caffine in tea seems to work much better with mine. I have a favorite tea pot, cups and saucers etc. Steeped in the fetishism and ritual which often accompanies addiction.
      - steve 3-07-2001 4:57 pm [add a comment]


      • i love the tea buzz and only use expresso as a last resort if i need the turbo charge for a work event or traveling in italy...not sure if the cafine is different or its the addmixtures...guarana is a great caffine to my body too
        - Skinny 3-07-2001 5:44 pm [add a comment]


        • For me Typoo is more of a turbo charge than any espresso. I'm not sure why, since I bet that there is more caffine in the double shot of espresso than the cup of Typhoo....
          - steve 3-07-2001 7:14 pm [add a comment]


          • caffeine faq
            - dave 3-07-2001 7:28 pm [add a comment]


            • Thanks for the faqs I think this explaines my Typhoo vs. espresso experience: By means of comparison, a 7 oz cup of coffee has the following caffeine (mg) amounts, according to Bunker and McWilliams in J. Am. Diet. 74:28-32, 1979: Drip 115-175
              Espresso 100mg of caffeine 1 serving (1.5-2oz)
              Brewed 80-135
              Instant 65-100
              Decaf, brewed 3-4
              Decaf, instant 2-3
              Tea, iced (12 ozs.) 70
              Tea, brewed, imported 60
              Tea, brewed, U.S. 40
              Tea, instant 30
              Mate 25-150mg
              The variability in the amount of caffeine in a cup of coffee or tea is relatively large even if prepared by the same person using the same equipment and ingredients day after day.
              Reference Variability in caffeine consumption from coffee and tea: Possible significance for epidemiological studies by B. Stavric, R. Klassen, B. Watkinson, K. Karpinski, R. Stapley, and P. Fried in "Foundations of Chemical Toxicology", Volume 26, number 2, pp. 111-118, 1988 and an easy to read overview, Looking for the Perfect Brew by S. Eisenberg, "Science News", Volume 133, April 16, 1988, pp. 252-253.
              Quote from the lab manual:
              Caffeine is present in tea leaves and in coffee to the alkaloids, theobromine and theophylline. These last two relax the smooth muscles where caffeine stimulates the heart and respiratory systems.

              A brewed cup of imported tea yields 60 mg. of caffine (and in the case of Typhoo, I suspect even more)
              I was using two bags in a pot. and the presence of theobromine and theophylline in tea help explain the absnece of coffee jitters.
              This confirms my long time argument that there is less caffine in a shot of espresso than an 8oz cup of coffee.
              - steve 3-07-2001 9:25 pm [add a comment]


              • My Chinese neighbor here @ WTC advises that a the green tea of choice is from her region Hangzhou. A local brand "Long Jing" from the county of the same name (means : "Dragon Well") is one of the finest in the country. It comes in various grades : "special" (at the top) and then 1st thru 5th. Special may cost up to $200.00 for 1 oz. - freshness is highly prized. Even picked off a live plant and dried (very lightly) by frying (w/o oil) in a wok. At work she puts loose leaves (aprox 1 tea bag amount or small palm-full) in a mug and runs hot water over them and then re adds hot water up to three times (should cover one afternoons time). My first drink was today and this process works fine (on cup two now). She also suggests these brands : Biluo Chun and Xinyang Maojian and this teapot .

                It beats to hell my Arizona GT habit which boasts the flwg ingredients : premium brewed green tea using filtered water, high fructose corn syrup (YUK), sugar(YUK), honey, citric acid, natural flavord, ginseng extract, ascorbic acid.


                - bill 3-08-2001 10:15 pm [add a comment]


        • from daves find and i agree******Guarana It's really tasty and packs a wallop. Guarana wakes you up like crazy, but it doesn't cause coffee jitters. It is possible that in addition to caffeine, there is some other substance in guarana that also produces an effect, since it 'feels' different than coffee. Same goes for mate.
          - Skinny 3-09-2001 6:13 am [add a comment]


          • anyone hear of rooibos (ROY boss) tea? it grows only in a small area in s. africa and, according to the utne reader, it relieves all sorts of body ailments (insomnia, mild depression, allergies...) and has more antioxidants than green tea. no caffeine so keep the typhoo for the a.m.
            - linda 3-09-2001 7:09 pm [add a comment]


            • Never heard of it, but there are plenty of links. I guess the term "tea" is used loosely for various sorts of infusions. Teas made from actual tea plants always start out with caffeine.
              - alex 3-09-2001 8:39 pm [add a comment]